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Default Gay rights - 12-01-2009, 05:47 PM

Okay, here's my thoughts on the issue, just to organize it into one thread.

I understand where gay rights activists are coming from, they feel that everybody should be treated equally, no matter what kind of person they are. But the fact is, people are forgetting why we are really supposed to have sex, and that is to reproduce. I understand that you want to "satisfy your natural cravings", but God(whom I'm sure most of you don't believe in, if it makes you feel better, you can pretend I said big explosion in space that couldn't have possibly happened) gave people the sex drive as a motive to reproduce, and he wants you to enjoy it, but that doesn't mean he wants us to abuse this privilege and have sex in a non-productive manner. Even if you don't believe that there is a God who made us, you have to believe that something or someone did. And whoever or whatever that is, clearly made man and woman specially so they couldn't reproduce without each other, and I doubt that was without reason. I'm not saying it's wrong to be attracted to men, but you don't need to act on it, especially since most people start out thrill-seeking and not actually loving another person of their gender.

Another point is that gays aren't actually oppressed. They have to same rights we do, they can marry someone of the opposite gender. I straight male can't marry another male either, so their not the only one's with a limitation just because their the only ones that don't like it.

Lastly, like it or not, America is a Christian nation, and it is against Christian beliefs to have gay marriage. You want gay marriage, move out of the country.

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Default 12-01-2009, 06:39 PM

Yeah, cause people don't have sex for pleasure all the time.

Condoms, birth control, getting sterile, all so people don't have kids. So many people have sex in a 'non productive manner' so don't even start on gay people, straights are just as big of a culprit.

I personally believe they should be able to marry. Because sometimes religion is a crock.
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Default 12-01-2009, 06:53 PM

i think that gays should have the right to choose the life for themselves but does not mean i agree with their choice though. i mean they can have partner, but why the need to marry. they have the freedom to have same sex partner. but still they should have the right to marry but it depends on if the religion they belong to would agree.
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Default 12-01-2009, 07:01 PM

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i think that gays should have the right to choose the life for themselves but does not mean i agree with their choice though. i mean they can have partner, but why the need to marry. they have the freedom to have same sex partner. but still they should have the right to marry but it depends on if the religion they belong to would agree.
Marriage is about more than religion, it's about love and they get legal rights along with it, as of now 'boyfriend and boyfriend' or 'girlfriend and girlfriend' lack the same rights that marriages have. I feel they deserve those rights.
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Default 12-01-2009, 07:04 PM

They should be able to marry. Look at all the orphans, they get adopted by gays all the time. If anything this is good, population control and homeless kids out of orphanages. If this is a so called free country it should be legal to marry in every state. They're just as the same as straights.
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i mean they can have partner, but why the need to marry.
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Marriage is about more than religion, it's about love and they get legal rights along with it, as of now 'boyfriend and boyfriend' or 'girlfriend and girlfriend' lack the same rights that marriages have. I feel they deserve those rights.
I see it indies way, there's really no reason for them to marry. Contrary to what thc says, marriage is about religion, it's a Christian tradition. The reason we have our laws is because we live in a Christian country(though we don't always act like it). There's not really that much legal rights to go with it, if one of them dies that person can just right a will to make sure his money goes to his boyfriend, or fiance(they can still get engaged).
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Default 12-02-2009, 07:23 AM

Gay couples and people should have the same rights straight couples and people should have. Why should we base our laws around a religeon when most people within a country either are from different religeon or are not religeous. It seems stupid that in such modern time people are still discriminated against. I speak these veiws as a perfectly straight guy who ha 1 or 2 gay friends.
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Default 12-02-2009, 08:29 AM

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Gay couples and people should have the same rights straight couples and people should have. Why should we base our laws around a religeon when most people within a country either are from different religeon or are not religeous. It seems stupid that in such modern time people are still discriminated against. I speak these veiws as a perfectly straight guy who ha 1 or 2 gay friends.
They do have the same rights, and their not discriminated against. They have the right the marry someone of the opposite sex. The law doesn't change just because you don't like it. Giving gay people the PRIVILAGE of having a special exception to marry someone of their same gender would be like saying pedophiles could have consensual sex with minors. Both sides want it, and why discriminate against pedophiles?
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They do have the same rights, and their not discriminated against. They have the right the marry someone of the opposite sex. The law doesn't change just because you don't like it. Giving gay people the PRIVILAGE of having a special exception to marry someone of their same gender would be like saying pedophiles could have consensual sex with minors. Both sides want it, and why discriminate against pedophiles?
How is marriage the same as pedophilia? And also since when does for example an 11 year old girl want to have sexual intercourse with a 50 year old man? Im going to go ahead and say it your example sucked. How could you complare the two?
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Default 12-02-2009, 10:34 AM

I believe since god says it is wrong that it should not be allowed, i do not support gay rights.
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How is marriage the same as pedophilia? And also since when does for example an 11 year old girl want to have sexual intercourse with a 50 year old man? Im going to go ahead and say it your example sucked. How could you complare the two?
I'm not saying eleven and fifty, but we all know it happens with 15-16 and 30-40. And it's the exact same thing. Two people wanting to have sex despite what the law says, and two people wanting to get married despite what the law says. No side is getting in any way mistreated, and the risk of STD's are the same, yet one is more looked down on than the other. You tell me, what is the difference?
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Default 12-02-2009, 11:09 AM

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They should be able to marry. Look at all the orphans, they get adopted by gays all the time. If anything this is good, population control and homeless kids out of orphanages. If this is a so called free country it should be legal to marry in every state. They're just as the same as straights.
I totally agree with you. They are actually an advantage and i donīt think itīs so bad, really. AliciaSue said it right, and i have to point it out. This is, though, my opinion, and iīll let you all contradict me.
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Default 12-02-2009, 11:15 AM

Gay Bisexual or straight, it dosent matter what your sexuality is, as long as you are happy with it
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Default 12-02-2009, 11:23 AM

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Gay Bisexual or straight, it dosent matter what your sexuality is, as long as you are happy with it
I agree, you can love who you like as long as your happy
Gay, Bisexual and straight people are all the same its just some people love different genders and they choose to be like that.
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I totally agree with you. They are actually an advantage and i donīt think itīs so bad, really. AliciaSue said it right, and i have to point it out. This is, though, my opinion, and iīll let you all contradict me.
Good to see your willing to play ball.

I can't deny that gays adopt alot of kids, and I'm sure that's better than them living in an orphanage.

I do, however, disagree with your free country statement. Free simply means we have the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. If your happy with another person of your gender, you have to right to live together(I think). Marriage will not make any difference for you or for any gay person. The REAL reason for marriage, despite what everyone thinks, is to unite as one flesh under God. If you want to hold a ceremony to say your committed to the other person, go for it. But it's not marriage.

I would settle for letting gays have there own ceremony to get legal rights and all that stuff...but marriage is an entirely different thing.
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Default 12-02-2009, 01:33 PM

Gays are normal people that do not date with people of the oppose sex. They are normal, they could be able to marry and adopt kids.
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Gays are normal people that do not date with people of the oppose sex. They are normal, they could be able to marry and adopt kids.
They are still people, and they are allowed to marry. They just can't marry someone who is of the same sex...it defeats the whole purpose of marriage.
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They are still people, and they are allowed to marry. They just can't marry someone who is of the same sex...it defeats the whole purpose of marriage.
Well, when you marry, you will marry with the girl you love, correct? If the man loves another man why can't they marry?
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Default 12-02-2009, 07:26 PM

i better like gays that cross dress because i may know that they are "gay". i hate those guys whom i think are real men but they are hiding it. i cannot imagine the times when we are together in the locker room after a nice work out.yikes!
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Default 12-02-2009, 07:33 PM

I believe they should have the rights as everyone else in this world, we are all human and we should respect other peoples life choices.
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